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Site updated by Robert Hickey on January 30, 2012
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| Writing Invitations How to List Retired Officers on Invitations? How to List Retired Enlisted Personnel on Invitations? How to List an Officer as Groom on an Invitation? How to List a Officer as Father of the Bride on an Invitation? How to List a Warrant Officer as Father of the Bride on an Invitation? How to List a Bride & Groom - Both in the Service - on an Invitation?
How to Decide Which Rank to Use on the Invitation If the Groom is about to get Promoted?
How Is Branch of Service Used on Invitations? Do I Use Military Time on Military Invitations?
Addressing Invitations How to Address Military Personnel on Invitations? How to Address Enlisted Personnel on Invitations? How to Address an Officer Who is an M.D.? May I Abbreviate Ranks on Invitations? Addressing Invitations: Joint Forms of Address How to Address Two Officers of Equal Rank Using Abbreviated Ranks? How to Address Two Officers of Equal Rank, Spelling Out the Ranks? How to Address an Officer and Her Civilian Husband? How to Address a Two Officers on Unequal Rank? How to Address an Officer Who is an M.D. & Spouse?
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How to Write Chief Warrant Officer on an Invitation? Sir: I am a retired Chief Warrant Office Five. When using my rank on the wedding invitation should I use Chief Warrant Officer Five or Chief Warrant Officer? Is the following correct?:
Chief Warrant Officer Five and Mrs. John Doe request the honor of your presence at the marriage of their daughter Jan Doe to Mr. Adam Smith
I appreciate your guidance. -- V/r, John
Dear John: The One, Two, Three, Four, or Five (stepped ranks) of Warrant Officer are not used socially. A best option is: Chief Warrant Officer and Mrs. John Doe FYI .... most formally you are Chief Warrant Officer John Doe and Mrs. Doe keeping your rank & name as a unit, but the Chief Warrant Officer and Mrs. version is typical used on invitations where space is an issue. -- Robert Hickey
Which Form of Rank Should I Use on an Invitation? The Officer's Full Rank? Or the Short Version of Rank? Why is it that when you need a current military protocol handbook you can never find one? My Department of State handbook mentions nothing about this particular question, so, a friend referred me to you. In particular, concerning how to write the name of a soon-to-be commissioned Second Lieutenant, USMC, onhis graduation and commissioning invitation, the question is ... on the return/RSVP and on the personal "calling card" enclosed, which is more proper...Name, followed by Lieutenant, USMC or Second Lieutenant, USMC? Back in my youth, it was common for Lieutenants to abstain from including either "Second" or "First" in invitations, or on calling cards. But, what is the current format? My brother, a West Point graduate, insists that simply "Lieutenant" is proper, while I, a former NCO, hold that the proper format is to include either "Second" or "First" Lieutenant on all invitations or calling cards and related items. If you would, could you make a call on this and provide a reference or two...have to get these items off to the printers soonest and wish to make sure that the young officer gets off on the right foot? Thank you, -- Sincerely, JWE in Bowling Green, OH Dear JWE in Bowling Green: FIRST about whether it's "Lieutenant" or "Second Lieutenant." CORRESPONDANCE: In the past, forms of address for USA lieutenants varied slightly from USAF and USMC lieutenants which I think is the source of the various “right forms” you are encountering. But, current DOD directives show forms of address in writing for official correspondance to be identical for all services. Use the form I give on page 209 of my book: Second Lieutenant (full name), USMC (Address) 1) E.g., The Air Force uses “full ranks” in writing, and “basic ranks” orally. So a (non-com) USAF Technical Sergeant is “Technical Sergeant (name) in writing, and “Sergeant (name)” orally. 3) The Army, as your brother notes, had used “basic rank” in both instances, but the USA currently uses “full” and “basic” the same as everyone else. FYI ... here's the current USA document .... see Table 6.1: http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/p600_60.pdf SECOND, ON INVITATIONS .. All that said .... On a formal invitation (like a wedding invitation) it is typical for junior officers to have their names presented as:
(Full name) Second Lieutenant, United States Marine Corps
Note that this is all spelled out (no abbreviations), on two lines. This sort of thing is one reason I prepared my book the way I did: I give you the answer, not the history of every form -- That would have made the book 1,576 pages rather than just 576! -- Robert Hickey
How To Write the Name of a Father of The Bride Who is an Officer On The Invitation? How to I address or list the father of the bride who is a retired Major General on a wedding invitation? I am checking your site and you said that you don't list "retired" on social invitations. Does that include "Major Generals" also? Just making sure I write out the invites correctly. Thank you, -- The Wedding Planner, Norwalk, CT
Dear TWPNC: Socially ... invitations, holiday or birthday cards, personal letters, thank-you notes, and all other personal unofficial mail ... you don't use branch of service or retired when listing the name OR on the envelope when sending it. On official communications ... letters regarding their actions as a military officer -- for both active and retired -- you do use branch of service and if retired ... you do use Ret. or Retired. This is the formula suggested in Department of Defense guidelines (and I include it on page 94 of my book), so it comes from the very top of the top at the Pentagon. It applies to all personnel ... officers, enlisted ... and both guests and fathers of brides! -- Robert Hickey
How to Decide Which Rank to Use On the Invitation If the Bridegroom is About to Get a New Rank? In your book you show the forms for all the Air Force ranks, even for a cadet a the USAF Academy. My situation is what if an Air Force cadet was getting married a week after getting commissioned. At the time of the wedding the cadet will be a 2nd Lt but when the invitations go out he would still be a cadet. When sending the invitations for their military wedding, would they put as his rank 2nd Lt or Cadet? Cadets hold no rank prior to commissioning or are listed as an E-3 in the reserve, it's a really gray area. What should be the rank on the invitation? -- V/R, John Victoria Dear VR If he will be a 2nd Lt on the date of the wedding ... use 2nd Lt on the invitation. That will be his correct name and rank at the event. Only potential snafu will be ... if anything gets in the way of the commissioning! -- Robert Hickey
How to Write The Names of Military Personnel On a Wedding Invitation, When Both are Military? I was looking at your blog on forms of address for military invitations. My fiance and I are both active-duty military. I am a Navy Lieutenant Commander (O4) and he is a Marine Chief Warrant Officer Five. He will be in uniform for the wedding, I will not. Should we both have our ranks on the invitations? If so, could you please advise on how this should be written. Using John and Jane Doe, Is it:
at the marriage of Jane Doe Lieutenant Commander, United States Navy to John Doe Chief Warrant Officer Five, United States Marine Corps on...
Thanks in advance, -- Laura Dear Laura, I asked my experts on military protocol and military invitations to give me their view, and here's what I found. Pamela Eyring, Director of The Protocol School of Washington (PSOW) says: "The Blue Book of Stationary suggests members of the US armed forces follow the same etiquette as civilian weddings with the exception of the use of military titles & service designations. Military titles are never abbreviated unless necessary because of space limitations. The rank should be placed on the same line as the name, with the service listed the next line below. To have consistency on the invitation, my recommendation would be to use both as rank+name and branch of service:
Lieutenant Commander Jane Doe United States Navy to Chief Warrant Officer John Doe United States Marine Corps
I also asked Diane Brown of Protocol Solutions and a fellow training facilitator at the PSOW and she added: "Historically, use of ranks by military personnel was only for officers 03 and above. If they were not an 03 or above, the rank would appear on the second line with the branch of service." "From my perspective, the military has evolved in many ways regarding enlisted service members, so I wouldn't be opposed to using the enlisted rank, if desired by the military couple. Often, military members simply do not use their ranks." "The Service Etiquette book has some good examples of wedding invitations for service members." "Simple points: 1. Ladies name first. 2. Rank should be spelled out followed by the name. 3. The service should be under the name, spelled out. "Bottom line: In this case, I would do it as Pam suggested above." Also note that neither Pam or Diane includes "Five" with "Chief Warrant Officer." DoD guides say "the numbers" aren't used in social address. Let me know if that helps. -- Robert Hickey
Thank you Robert I am still undecided whether or not to use my rank on the invitation but my fiance will definitely use his. I appreciate your assistance and think it's pretty cool that you asked someone in military protocol since I am transferring to the Pentagon in a few months! -- Laura
How to Write The Names of Military Personnel On a Wedding Invitation, When Both are Military? I was looking at your blog on forms of address for military invitations. My fiance and I are both active-duty military. I am a Navy Lieutenant Commander (O4) and he is a Marine Chief Warrant Officer Five. He will be in uniform for the wedding, I will not. Should we both have our ranks on the invitations? If so, could you please advise on how this should be written. Using John and Jane Doe, Is it:
at the marriage of Jane Doe Lieutenant Commander, United States Navy to John Doe Chief Warrant Officer Five, United States Marine Corps on...
Thanks in advance, -- Laura Dear Laura, I asked my experts on military protocol and military invitations to give me their view, and here's what I found. Pamela Eyring, Director of The Protocol School of Washington (PSOW) says: "The Blue Book of Stationary suggests members of the US armed forces follow the same etiquette as civilian weddings with the exception of the use of military titles & service designations. Military titles are never abbreviated unless necessary because of space limitations. The rank should be placed on the same line as the name, with the service listed the next line below. To have consistency on the invitation, my recommendation would be to use both as rank+name and branch of service:
Lieutenant Commander Jane Doe United States Navy to Chief Warrant Officer John Doe United States Marine Corps
I also asked Diane Brown of Protocol Solutions and a fellow training facilitator at the PSOW and she added: "Historically, use of ranks by military personnel was only for officers 03 and above. If they were not an 03 or above, the rank would appear on the second line with the branch of service." "From my perspective, the military has evolved in many ways regarding enlisted service members, so I wouldn't be opposed to using the enlisted rank, if desired by the military couple. Often, military members simply do not use their ranks." "The Service Etiquette book has some good examples of wedding invitations for service members." "Simple points: 1. Ladies name first. 2. Rank should be spelled out followed by the name. 3. The service should be under the name, spelled out. "Bottom line: In this case, I would do it as Pam suggested above." Also note that neither Pam or Diane includes "Five" with "Chief Warrant Officer." DoD guides say "the numbers" aren't used in social address. Let me know if that helps. -- Robert Hickey
Thank you Robert I am still undecided whether or not to use my rank on the invitation but my fiance will definitely use his. I appreciate your assistance and think it's pretty cool that you asked someone in military protocol since I am transferring to the Pentagon in a few months! -- Laura
How to Write a Wedding Invitation When the Bride & Groom Are Both Active-Duty? I am a First Lieutenant and he is a Captain. Whose name should appear first? I always understood the female should be, but he out ranks me. We are paying for the wedding ourselves and both families are contributing. Who’s name should go first?
First Lieutenant Jane Doe And Captain John Wilson
Regarding including my rank: I've read on your blog that the rank is listed before the name for ranks 03 or above? -- 1st Lieutenant Bride
Dear 1st. Lieutenant Bride, On a wedding invitation the bride is listed first. Ladies first. On a mailing envelope, or inside envelope, .... Yes ... the higher rank would be first, lower rank second, regardless of gender. There is a "rule" that usually only ranks above 03 are listed before the name, and that might makes sense if your parents were issuing the invitation. It doesn't makes any sense if you are issuing the invitation yourself. On military wedding invitations, branches of service are included. If parents are not listed .... the best formats are:
First Lieutenant Jane Doe United States Air Force and Captain John Wilson United States Army request the honor of your presence etc.
The honor of your presence is requested at the marriage of First Lieutenant Jane Doe United States Air Force and Captain John Wilson United States Army etc.
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How to Write Military Rank & "Retired" On An Invitation Could you please assist with the proper wording of a wedding invitation for my son's wedding? My husband retired as a Lieutenant Colonel from the United States Marine Corps, and although the bride's parents are issuing the wedding invitation, our names will appear on the invitation. The reason for this is that the private club at which my husband (not the bride's family) is a member requires that the name of the club member appear on social invitations. My question is whether designation as a "Retired" Marine Corps officer must be indicated on the wedding invitation? The major problem is that my husband's name and title cover the entire length of the invitation, and there are no more spaces to include (Retired, USMC) on that line. The bride's family has wondered if guests might assume that my husband is still on active duty. Our stationer's research with Crane Paper Company (Crane's Blue Book of Stationery) states "When the bride's father is an officer and issues the wedding invitations with his wife, his military title precedes his name." The current wording goes something like this:
Dr. and Mrs. Edward Thompson Smith request the honor of your presence at the marriage of their daughter Jane Anne Smith to Mr. Alexander William Wilson son of Lieutenant Colonel and Mrs. William Wilson (Date) (Time) (Place)
(City)
-- Annie G.
Dear Annie: What you've suggested looks good with some comments: 1) Including the "USMC" and "Retired" would be important at an official event where active-duty officers and retired officers were attending in an official capacity. At this social occasion there won't be confusion whether the "Lt. Col." is there in an official capacity. 2) There also a style of abbreviations used by the armed forces: DOD Abbreviations for Ranks and Ratings, These are service specific -- LTC for the Army, LtCol for the Marines, Lt Col for the Air Force. Capitalization, spaces, and lack of punctuation are as noted. These are always used at official armed forces occasions. Many military protocol officers use them as social events as well. Using them would be immediately understandable to service personnel, but might seem unusual to some civilians. 3) What Crane means by "When the bride's father is an officer and issues the wedding invitation with his wife, his military title precedes his name" is that the most formal way to write the names would be for the "title" to immediately precede the name: Dr. John Edward Smith and Mrs. Smith Lieutenant Colonel Maurice Oliver Volentine Green and Mrs. Green
The "Dr. and Mrs." and the "Lt. Col. and Mrs." are less formal forms. The "title immediately preceding the name" is more of an issue with very high officials such as The Honorable John Edward Smith and Mrs. Smith The Reverend John Edward Smith and Mrs. Smith
In these case you want to avoid... The Honorable and Mrs. John Edward Smith. The Reverend and Mrs. John Edward Smith -- Robert Hickey
How to Write a "(Rank), Retired" on an Invitation? Good afternoon. I have a question concerning the use of rank in a wedding invitation for a retired Chief Warrant Officer Four of the US Army. Would the invitation start as: "Chief Warrant Officer, USN Retired & Mrs. Richard Dean James" or " Retired USN Chief Warrant Officer & Mrs. Richard Dean James" I've tried several etiquette books however, and can only find information on commissioned officers. -- Ms. Wedding Planner
Dear Ms. WP: I cover warrant officers in my book, but you are right, all the other books only cover commissioned officers. 1) The 1, 2, 3, 4 rankings of Warrant Officers don't appear on a wedding invitation. 2) Branch of service and active/retired status do not appear with the service member's name in social use. Most formally and correctly it should read: Chief Warrant Officer (full name) and Mrs. (surname) If space is an issue, and this would would be shorter .... but also less formal .... Chief Warrant Officer and Mrs. (man's full name) -- Robert Hickey
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Do I Use Military Time on a Military Invitation? My family is hosting a commissioning of my brother who is becoming a Second Lieutenant in the United States Army. Since he's entering the world of military time and 'twenty-four hundred hours" should we use military time on the invitation? -- Jessica W., Athens, Georgia
Dear Jessica, In the US Army's Protocol Guide they don't use 1400 hours They use at two o'clock See below.: -- Robert Hickey  |
Addressing Invitations to Military Personnel
How to Address Invitations of Military Personnel? How do your address outside wedding envelopes for military (Air Force and Army) active and retired, enlisted and officers. It is not a military wedding however many military will be attending. -- Diane
Dear Diane: Answering that question is a chapter in itself ... and I have a whole chapter on it in my book. Check it out pages 205-224 is for the US armed services. The British, Canadian and Australian armed services each have their own chapters too. The correct social form of address on a wedding invitation to active duty officers and enlisted would be Rank or Rating + Full name Address Examples would include: General William Smith Address Ensign Susan Scott Address Chief Warrant Officer Nancy Thompson Address Gunnery Sergeant Brian Tillman Address 1) You don't identify/include their branch of service ... USA, USAF, USN, USMC, or USCG ... after the name on social correspondence (a wedding invitation is social correspondence.) You do include branch of service on official correspondence. 2) And finally, you don't indicate whether the are "active duty" or "retired" on social correspondence. -- Robert Hickey
How to Address Enlisted Personnel on an Invitation? I am engaged to a member of the Marine Corps and have several military invitations that I'm trying to address. I seem to have all the Marine's under control with their ranks; however, I have a couple of members of the Navy and am unsure how to address their outer envelope. I know that enlisted Navy personnel have rates (such as PO2) instead of an actual rank, but do not know how you use this on the invitation. Thank you in advance for your help! -- Katie (and Todd)
Dear Katie (and Todd), I cover the Navy on pages 215-224. The USN has both officers and enlisted personnel. All are addressed the same way on social correspondence: {Rank/Rating} + {Name}. The most formal way to address an envelope is to do so without abbreviations, spelling out every word. So, for example: Petty Officer Second Class (name) Address is more formal than: PO2 (name) Address But when a name gets very long and space becomes an issue ... using the abbreviation HM2 is absolutely acceptable. USN (the post-nominal abbreviation for the branch of service) is not included after a name on social correspondence. It is used on official correspondence. You don't say which ranks/ratings your guests have so I can't be much more specific ... but Cranes Blue Book of Stationery has lots of information on addressing wedding invitations and place cards for your reception. I updated the book with Pamela Eyring (Director of The Protocol School of Washington) in 2008. -- Robert Hickey
How to Address An Invitation's Outside Envelope To a Member of the Armed Service? I stumbled across your website and am in desperate need of the proper way to address the attendants for our wedding ceremony. Although it is military inspired, and the groom will be in uniform (he's a 2nd Lieut in the army), it will not be officially conducted by the military. However, since I have included the groom's rank (lieutenant) in the invitation itself, I think it would only be proper to address the envelopes with the proper rank of those invited. There will only be the outer envelope to address. The first person is a 1st lieutenant in the army. It will be addressed to _____ Will (last name) and Guest Address (street, etc.) Another attendant is a staff sergeant in the army. It will be addressed to ____ Jose (last name) and Guest Address (street, etc.) I read somewhere that there is a difference between the addressing of officers, NCOs, and enlisted. I am very confused b/c I have read also that whether you are a 1st Lieut. or 2nd Lieut, you just simply use Lieutenant. Please help me know how to write the mailing address for these ranks! I'm not finding very consistent information! Thank you and very grateful, -- Brittany
Dear Brittany: I cover every every U.S. Armed Service rank and rating in detail in my book. Use (Full Rank) or (Full Rating) on the outside, mailing envelope. All personnel follow the same formula: (Full Rating or Rank) (Full Name) First Lieutenant William French 123 Alphabet Court City, State, ZIP Chief Warrant Officer Joseph German 456 Alphabet Court City, State, ZIP Staff Sergeant Thomas English 789 Alphabet Court City, State, ZIP -- Robert Hickey Robert Thank you very much for your quick response! I will definitely recommend your book. You have been a big stress reliever! -- Brittany
May I Address Invitations Using Abbreviated Ranks? I am wondering if it is improper to use abbreviated ranks on an invitation's envelope. Would this be correct? LTC & Mrs. John Smith Address ... (on the envelope) -- Diana in Baltimore
Dear Diana: Most formally everything in an address on a formal invitation's envelope is spelled out ... except for ... 1) State abbreviations: MD, VA, PA ... because that's what the US Postal service requests 2) ... and by the Armed Services .... the service-specific abbreviations for ranks .. LTC vs. LtCol vs. Lt Col ... for the Lieutenant Colonel in the Army, Marines, and Air Force respectively. These abbreviations are always used by the U.S. Armed Services. You can use them too, but just make sure you get caps and spacing right or you will put your guest into the wrong service. One comment on the way you wrote the name. Most formally when addressing a person who has an honorific, rank or title other than Mr./Mrs./Ms./Dr. you shouldn't break up their "honorific" from their name ... So rather than: LTC and Mrs. John Smith Address Most formally it would be: LTC John Smith and Mrs. Smith Address The logic is that the person with the rank gets his or her name on a line by itself. -- Robert Hickey
Is Branch of Service Included When Addressing an Invitation? I retired from the US Navy with the rank of Lieutenant Commander in 1991. My son is marrying. He and his intended are sending out wedding invitations Would the invitation to my bride and me be addressed simply as: LCDR and Mrs. William A. Grillo or LCDR and Mrs. William A. Grillo, USN The retired component would not be included since this is not military/official related correspondence as I understand it. Very Respectfully Bill Grillo, El Cajon, CA
Dear LCDR Grillo: I cover this in my book on pages 147 and 217. RE: USN USN and Retired are not used on social correspondence. So no USN RE: LDCR and Mrs. William A. Grillo The most formal way would be: Lieutenant Commander William A. Grillo and Mrs. Grillo 24274 Henderson Drive Le Cajon, CA 92020-1700 Using the LDCR is the standard in military correspondence, but not in civilian correspondence. Assuming this may be an invitation extended by a civilian, using the service-specific abbreviation is certainly O.K. ... but for spelling out every word is the most formal. And lastly ... you may see ... LDCR and Mrs. William A. Grillo here and there. It's not the formal way since, most formally an officer get's his or her name as a unit ... LDCR William A. Grillo ... and the spouse gets his or her name as a unit too. So while some sources says it's O.K. ... it is not used on invitations sent out by the Secretary of Defense at the Pentagon and not by The White House. -- Robert Hickey
How to Address a Military Physician On an Invitation? My fiance has a friend who is a medical doctor who is also on active duty with a rank of Captain in the Air Force, where he practices medicine. How should we address the wedding invitation? -- Carol B.
Dear Carol B.: All active-duty armed service personnel are addressed as: (Rank) + (Name) For a written address, there are different forms for "official" and "social" correspondence: I cover that in detail in my chapter on Forms of Address for US Armed Services in my book. Here's the answer: On social correspondence post-nominal abbreviations are not used ... thus there no USAF and MSC with his name. A wedding invitation's mailing envelope uses the social form: Captain William Blake Address If you are using inside envelopes, the form is to use you would call him, and most formally that would be: Captain Blake He might identify himself as Dr. as he enters an exam room where the patient sits in a backless paper gown ... But in the military, the etiquette is to address all personnel by rank ... one's rank is the most important information: how one serves is important, but is of secondary importance. -- Robert Hickey
How to List a Military Physician On a Program? I recently attended a funeral for a retired Rear Admiral who was also a Navy doctor. Was it proper to refer to him in on the cover of the program as:
Honoring RADM (name), M.D.
Was that correct? -- Vic M. in Pew #44 Dear Vic M.: Correct by U.S. Department of Defense guidelines would have been: RADM (full name), Medical Corps, USN 1) Abbreviating "Rear Admiral" to the military abbreviation RADM is standard at military events. 2) In the official form of address, branch of service follows the name, in this case -- Medical Corps, USN. 3) There's a rule no academic degree is used with a military rank -- so M.D. -- or any other academic post-nominal abbreviation never follows a name preceded by a rank. ... so never use Captain (full name), MBA, General (full name), JD or Major General (full name), PhD. 4) Finally, in the armed services everyone is addressed and identified by rank. How they serve is important (in this case as a doctor) but by their rank is how their name is written. -- Robert Hickey
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How to Address an Officer and Her Civilian Husband? When I was working at Wounded Warrior Project’s TRACK program, a luncheon guest who is employed by The City of Jacksonville asked how to address business and social invitations to a admiral (Linda Weston) and her civilian husband (Thomas Weston). Could you please advise? -- M. M. K.
Dear M.M.K.: Here 's the answer: all else being equal ... people in uniform have higher precedence than people not in uniform. So if they are both invited equally then on a social invitation use: Admiral Linda Weston and Mr. Thomas Weston Branch of service and "Retired" status are not noted on social forms. I mention if they are both invited equally .... if HE were the actual guest and his wife was being invited as a courtesy .... as his escort/date ... then he would be listed first ... since he's the intended recipient of the invitation. -- Robert Hickey How to Address An Invitation to an Officer (Who Is an M.D.) & His Spouse's Name? My fiance and I are having a terrible time addressing some of our envelopes for our wedding. We have a number of high-ranking military officials that are retired and are medical doctors. For example we have a three star retired general (US Army) -- a Lieutenant General who is a physician. How do I write this: Lieutenant General James Doe, MD, Retired and Mrs. Janice Doe??? Does Mrs. Janice Doe go on another line I would assume? We are including the women's names on our envelopes because I am a bit of a feminist and hate the idea of leaving off any reference to the woman's identity. Thanks for your help! -- Carrie Worsham
Dear Ms. Worsham, The most formal forms, e.g. how The White House would address an invitation to a Lieutenant General and his wife. (BTW, they use my book.) 1) No M.D.: You never use an academic degree with a military rank. 2) The name of the person with the rank goes first. 3) You can address your wedding invitations however you like, but as you infer it's traditional that when a couple uses the same last name ... and the woman uses "Mrs." ... woman's first name is not included. Traditionally use of Mrs. (first name) + (last name) indicates a woman is divorced -- e.g., it's how she would be listed on a wedding invitation if they were no longer married, but she and her former husband were hosting the wedding. 4) Branch of service and retired status are not used on social correspondence. So on the mailing envelope: Lieutenant General James Doe and Mrs. Doe (address) And on the inside envelope you use 'conversational forms": General Doe and Mrs. Doe Or if they are family or very close friends Jim and Janice Uncle Jim and Aunt Janice -- Robert Hickey
How to Address an Invitation When Both Are in the Armed Services and They Have the Same Rank? Your knowledge of protocol would be most desired regarding a wedding invitation. I have son-in-law who is a Lieutenant in the United States Navy and my daughter who is a doctor and also a Lieutenant in the Navy. It is my understanding that Lieutenant would outrank doctor with regard to the military. Would the social invitation be Lieutenants Walter Karl Thompson and Melissa Sue Thompson or Lts. Walter Karl Thompson and Melissa Sue Thompson? I would appreciate your assistance in this situation. -- Janet
Dear Janet: Yes ... one's precedence in the armed services is only based on rank (and if ranks are the same, one with the earlier date-of-rank is higher) .... not one's mission in the service: doctor, pilot, mechanic, etc. So if "Walter" has an earlier date of rank, then the most formal ... and what I suggest is the following .... which would be to give each name full: Lieutenant Walter Carl Thomas and Lieutenant Melissa Sue Thomas If you were going to abbreviate Lieutenant ... the USN service-abbreviation for lieutenant is: LT All caps, no period. On the inside envelope names are sometimes combined in cases like this: Pastors Thomas Ambassadors Thomas Lieutenants Thomas But giving each person their entire name is the most formal: Lieutenant Thomas and Lieutenant Thomas -- Robert Hickey How to Address an Invitation When Both Husband & Wife Have the Same Rank? How do I address an invitation to two LTC (Army Lieutenant Colonels) that are married and both retired with the same last name? -- T. Leveski @ USA.mil
Dear T. Leveski: "LTC" is the U.S. Army service-specific abbreviation for Lieutenant Colonels. It is absolutely O.K. for anyone to use these. But is is also O.K. to spell out "Lieutenant Colonel" if you prefer. But since you mentioned LTC I'll answer it using the service-specific abbreviations: 1) If they are married to each other .... it would be: LTC Burkett Collins and LTC Sharon Collins 2) One of them has an earlier date of rank ... and that LTC ... regardless of gender .... would most correctly be listed first. . I include all the service-specific abbreviations, for all the services, in my book as well as all the joint forms of address for Military Officers and Enlisted Personnel on pages 147-149 of my book. -- Robert Hickey
How to Address an Invitation When Husband and Wife Have Different Ranks? How does one address an invitation to an active duty general and his wife who is a retired colonel? Thank you! -- Bekah
Dear Bekah: General William Smith and Colonel Sarah Smith 455 Westmoreland Avenue Falls Church, VA 22207 1) Each gets their full rank and name of a line by itself 2) A General gets his or her name first ... regardless of gender .... since a General outranks a Colonel. (There could be an exception, if she was the actual invitee and he was only being included only as her escort,... but General then Colonel is the usual precedence.) 3) I assume this is a social event ... so there is no need to mention their "active duty" or "retired" status ... or ... their branch of service .... since these are included on social correspondence. 4) It doesn't need to be indented like above .... it can be flush left, ... but it should be like the above -- line for line. People keep telling me that I should mention all this stuff is in my book ... and it is. I have a guide to joint forms of address for armed services personnel on pages 147-149. -- Robert Hickey
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